What's the point in Reading FC getting promoted ?

[Royal With Cheese]

There is absolutely no point to football whatsoever. I'm confused as to why anyone would want to watch it.

[BR2]

TMD has introduced an interesting topic.
Has he also asked what is the point for Blackburn,Bolton,Fulham,Wigan et al of staying in The Premiership?
The same question ought also be addressed to the fans of Wolves,Birmingham,Burnley,Cardiff,Preston and when you have TMD (especially regarding local sides to you in Blackburn,Bolton,Wigan,Preston and Burnley) perhaps you could feed the answers back to us out of interest.
The fact is that the Big Four have to play somebody and I suppose there is the counter question of "What's the point of Man Utd winning trophies?"
Is there any pleasure watching them beat teams that are clearly second rate by comparison?
Are their fans bullies by nature because they like to see their team smash inferior opposition.

I want Reading to get promotion to see better players week in,week out-at the same time I want us to build a side like Fulham or Wigan who are quite capable of beating the bigger clubs.
What I don't want is to see us get promoted and refuse to give the manager SOME money to improve the side-that does seem a pointless exercise unless we had a team that skated this division and were then immediately capable of drawing games and scoring goals v Man Utd and Chelsea.

TMD obviously doesn't understand the emotional aspect of supporting your local side-it's not a choice it's an accident of birth as to which team you support as a lifelong fan and Reading fans can be thankful that they weren't born in Hartlepool or Rochdale as the wait for any degree of success would have been even longer than ours.
From the outside it might seem pointless for a team to get promoted but from within there is something very exciting about it -ask long-standing Man Utd fans what it felt like back in the late 70s or whenever it was or even later for Chelsea fans if they could see the point of promotion.
If you are in The Premiership you can do something about achieving success such as qualifying for Europe as Reading so nearly did in their first season but if you are outside you can't do anything about it.
That is one of the points of Reading getting promoted.

[brendywendy]

There's absolutely no point whatsoever unless we look to build upon it as a club - and that means bringing in some QUALITY signings in the summer and pushing to finish as high as we possibly can and building the stadium up, not being happy we're there like many seemed to be last time.

not you again


+ that simply isnt true


i dont need or yearn for progression
i quite like it, as it is


what about the years and years where we didnt grow, and just bounced around the lower divisions?
attitude like yours would have seen this club ruined and playing in front of totally empty stadia through those times...........

We didn't have the cash, infrastructure or facilities at the club to sustain growth at that time - Madejski has put those in place. To compare us with the club we were back then is incredibly short-sighted. Go and ask the chairman and directors if they'll be happy just yo-yoing floating around.

im not comparing the two
as clearly there is a world of difference now

but the point remains-we all managed to stay with it, despite the lack of progression, or even signs of it, through all that
so why are you kicking off now.....unless its just cos you have had your expectations cruelly raised?

[Thaumagurist*]

What I don't want is to see us get promoted and refuse to give the manager SOME money to improve the side-that does seem a pointless exercise

Are you criticising Mr Madejski again? From memory, Coppell WAS given money, he just chose not to utilise the money as he decided the squad was good enough or couldn't find anyone worth spending the money on.

[TheMaraudingDog]

Season ticket price renewals were frozen. So no inflation for the loyal supporter, at least not for home matches.

RPI has fallen, so a freeze in season ticket prices is effectively a price rise.

[TheMaraudingDog]

There is absolutely no point to football whatsoever. I'm confused as to why anyone would want to watch it.

Same here, that's why i gave up two years ago.

[TheMaraudingDog]

TMD has introduced an interesting topic.
Has he also asked what is the point for Blackburn,Bolton,Fulham,Wigan et al of staying in The Premiership?
The same question ought also be addressed to the fans of Wolves,Birmingham,Burnley,Cardiff,Preston and when you have TMD (especially regarding local sides to you in Blackburn,Bolton,Wigan,Preston and Burnley) perhaps you could feed the answers back to us out of interest.
The fact is that the Big Four have to play somebody and I suppose there is the counter question of "What's the point of Man Utd winning trophies?"
Is there any pleasure watching them beat teams that are clearly second rate by comparison?
Are their fans bullies by nature because they like to see their team smash inferior opposition.

I want Reading to get promotion to see better players week in,week out-at the same time I want us to build a side like Fulham or Wigan who are quite capable of beating the bigger clubs.
What I don't want is to see us get promoted and refuse to give the manager SOME money to improve the side-that does seem a pointless exercise unless we had a team that skated this division and were then immediately capable of drawing games and scoring goals v Man Utd and Chelsea.

TMD obviously doesn't understand the emotional aspect of supporting your local side-it's not a choice it's an accident of birth as to which team you support as a lifelong fan and Reading fans can be thankful that they weren't born in Hartlepool or Rochdale as the wait for any degree of success would have been even longer than ours.
From the outside it might seem pointless for a team to get promoted but from within there is something very exciting about it -ask long-standing Man Utd fans what it felt like back in the late 70s or whenever it was or even later for Chelsea fans if they could see the point of promotion.
If you are in The Premiership you can do something about achieving success such as qualifying for Europe as Reading so nearly did in their first season but if you are outside you can't do anything about it.
That is one of the points of Reading getting promoted.

I haven't read all of this but you are right, the same applies to the clubs you have mentioned.

As for Europe, some of us have been there seen it done it with Reading all ready.

[tink]

CM royal hit on the head for me.

What's the point in supporting reading if this is as far as we can go?

What's the point in supporting man utd when they've already won everything. Sure, they're still going for champs league, prem, fa cup, but they've won all of them in the last couple of years anyway, so who gives a flying oxf*rd?

Unless some inter-galatic space competition comes along, there is nothing left for man utd to play for. There existence is meaningless. Why compete for something you've already won.

At least Reading are trying to achieve that which has never been done before

[seahawk10]

I want Reading to be promoted so we can get back to the fruitful discussions we used to have on stadium expansion.

[TheMaraudingDog]

CM royal hit on the head for me.

What's the point in supporting reading if this is as far as we can go?

What's the point in supporting man utd when they've already won everything. Sure, they're still going for champs league, prem, fa cup, but they've won all of them in the last couple of years anyway, so who gives a flying oxf*rd?

Unless some inter-galatic space competition comes along, there is nothing left for man utd to play for. There existence is meaningless. Why compete for something you've already won.

At least Reading are trying to achieve that which has never been done before

But winning trophies is achieving something. Winning promotion only to get relegated is pointless.

[Arch]

CM royal hit on the head for me.

What's the point in supporting reading if this is as far as we can go?

What's the point in supporting man utd when they've already won everything. Sure, they're still going for champs league, prem, fa cup, but they've won all of them in the last couple of years anyway, so who gives a flying oxf*rd?

Unless some inter-galatic space competition comes along, there is nothing left for man utd to play for. There existence is meaningless. Why compete for something you've already won.

At least Reading are trying to achieve that which has never been done before

But winning trophies is achieving something. Winning promotion only to get relegated is pointless.

No it isn't. If we get second on Sunday it'll be a fantastic day for everyone - even the pessimists and even if we know we're going to get stuffed enxt year. Even Royalee will be on the piss on Sunday night.

In fact even you and Harold will. Now that's pointless for you.

[TheMaraudingDog]

Little things please little minds.

[Thaumagurist*]

CM royal hit on the head for me.

What's the point in supporting reading if this is as far as we can go?

What's the point in supporting man utd when they've already won everything. Sure, they're still going for champs league, prem, fa cup, but they've won all of them in the last couple of years anyway, so who gives a flying oxf*rd?

Unless some inter-galatic space competition comes along, there is nothing left for man utd to play for. There existence is meaningless. Why compete for something you've already won.

At least Reading are trying to achieve that which has never been done before

But winning trophies is achieving something. Winning promotion only to get relegated is pointless.

So Man Utd winning promotion back to the top division way back when was pointless?

Winning promotion is an achievement. When you get promotion at work, would you turn it down, saying it was pointless and that you'd rather be the employee of the year at McDonalds?

[TheMaraudingDog]

CM royal hit on the head for me.

What's the point in supporting reading if this is as far as we can go?

What's the point in supporting man utd when they've already won everything. Sure, they're still going for champs league, prem, fa cup, but they've won all of them in the last couple of years anyway, so who gives a flying oxf*rd?

Unless some inter-galatic space competition comes along, there is nothing left for man utd to play for. There existence is meaningless. Why compete for something you've already won.

At least Reading are trying to achieve that which has never been done before

But winning trophies is achieving something. Winning promotion only to get relegated is pointless.

So Man Utd winning promotion back to the top division way back when was pointless?

Winning promotion is an achievement. When you get promotion at work, would you turn it down, saying it was pointless and that you'd rather be the employee of the year at McDonalds?

It's pointless winning promotion if it'll cost you money only to get demoted again.

[rhroyal]

Interpret it as a fishing attempt, but try to give me a genuine valid reason and you'll struggle old chap.

1) To watch us play against some of the best sides in the world. Even when we went down last season beating Liverpool was unforgettable and there was always a buzz I got watching us play against the better teams. Not just the big 4, Villa, Everton and Spurs too.

2) Then there's seeing better players actually in Reading shirts.

3) Then there's the money. Even if we do come back down we'll be in the position for a promotion race, we won't turn into Coventry or Crystal Palace.

4) Also it's easier to follow what's going on with all the Sky coverage and MOTD as opposed to the ITV rubbish.

You were fishing and you know it. Anyhow, are they valid reasons?

[JimmytheJim]

it's a ridiculous oxf*rd question. there's no point in anything, since we're all going to die eventually anyway, and the world will get swallowed in a black hole and eventually the universe will collapse back in on itself. what the oxf*rd does it matter what the point is? i don't watch reading for any reason other than an irrational love for a football team and a desire to be a part of their drama. since i invest my hopes in the club, i obviously would be happier to see them succeed than to see them fail, so promotion will do just fine, and the consequent relegation-battle will serve my dramatic requirements just fine. there isn't a good reason for doing anything, when you take teleology to its necessary conclusion, so why the hell would it matter what the point is in supporting reading? football only exists in the short-term. history doesn't stop a 'great' club being relegated, and a bright distant future doesn't stop a mediocre club being relegated even further.

[Archie's penalty]

it's a ridiculous oxf*rd question. there's no point in anything, since we're all going to die eventually anyway, and the world will get swallowed in a black hole and eventually the universe will collapse back in on itself. what the oxf*rd does it matter what the point is? i don't watch reading for any reason other than an irrational love for a football team and a desire to be a part of their drama. since i invest my hopes in the club, i obviously would be happier to see them succeed than to see them fail, so promotion will do just fine, and the consequent relegation-battle will serve my dramatic requirements just fine. there isn't a good reason for doing anything, when you take teleology to its necessary conclusion, so why the hell would it matter what the point is in supporting reading? football only exists in the short-term. history doesn't stop a 'great' club being relegated, and a bright distant future doesn't stop a mediocre club being relegated even further.

Fantastic post +1 million.

[Ian Royal]

Hmm win something one season and not for several others, or win nothing ever?


Can I have win something please? Runners up is close enough to winning something to count. Play off Winners obviously do win something.

[CMRoyal]

Season ticket price renewals were frozen. So no inflation for the loyal supporter, at least not for home matches.

RPI has fallen, so a freeze in season ticket prices is effectively a price rise.

RPI has only fallen (marginally) because of interest rate cuts. For those of us who are not indebted up to our eyeballs, inflation is still around the 3% mark (see CPI for details).

[RobRoyal]

Realistically, you'll only get relegated again and if not in the first season, then definitely in the next couple. You won't see anything you haven't seen already. You won't achieve anything better than you achieved before. You're just waiting to get relegated and hopefully then go back up again ?

Football, mate. It's fun. Believe it or not, that's true whether you're the best team in Europe or... one of the others. Enjoying being football fan, contrary to the opinion of MUFC fans, is not about getting your d*ck out in an attempt to prove that you're the biggest.

Really poor attempt by the way, makes you look a right fool.

7 homes games without a win with the players not giving a shit doesn't sound like much fun to me. Nor does the fact that there is a dead end to what you can achieve

Then you're just starting on the road to understanding being a football fan. Congrats.