The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

[Woodcote Royal]

Thing is, Brian likes to keep the peace, and when McCarthy had a run in the side the other season, Feds threw a strop when he was fully fit but not straight back in the side. Is Brian strong enough for these type of situations/egos? I guess we'll know soon enough. It was Coppell's downfall as well.

+1

One of Cameron's senior bank bencher's asked him this week if he's a man or a mouse.............................this is the exact same moment in Brian's tenure.

I believe he has everything in place to become the best manager we have ever had but if he ducks issues such as these, he's destined to become Coppell MkII.

Federici should know already that he's in for a spell in the reserves in order to sort out his game and, if McCarthy is half the 'keeper I believe he is, then the former may have played his last top flight match for us.

If players like Cummings have to deal with being dropped just because a rival has regained fitness (this has happened to him on at least 2 occasions) or because we have signed a rival for his place who went straight into the team, then Federici needs to deal with being dropped for making more errors in 3 games than some make in a season.

If Brian McDermott is the man I think he is, McCarthy is now pencilled in for Tottenham.

[Ian Royal]

not too sure what to make of this really, 1 mistake lets move on , 2 mistakes then , but 3 mistakes then .

Personally id give him 2 more games, if this carries on we cannot afford to be dropping anymore points needlessly, and its time for Taylor or McCarthy, harsh considering his superb form last season. Its a new season, clean sl8, and if he's costing us points then drop him, thats football.

This is absolutely it. He has a break now to get himself fit, sharp and focused. If he drops clangers in one of the next two games then that isn't a good enough sign of improvement and he has to be dropped.

I don't care how stroppy he'll get, how well he played last year, or how well he trains, if he conceeds cheap goals regularly in the league, he has to be out.

[Ian Royal]

not too sure what to make of this really, 1 mistake lets move on , 2 mistakes then , but 3 mistakes then .

Personally id give him 2 more games, if this carries on we cannot afford to be dropping anymore points needlessly, and its time for Taylor or McCarthy, harsh considering his superb form last season. Its a new season, clean sl8, and if he's costing us points then drop him, thats football.

I think a further 2 games is fair enough but it's a difficult call as by dropping him you would totally shoot any confidence he has left. What happens then if McCarthy has a poor start?

It's not as if he's an unknown quantity, we know he has it in him, he's just having a bad run. I can't see what gimps slagging him off hope to achieve though, if they think Federici or Brian aren't away that his performances haven't been great, they're living in dreamland. Vocally criticising him can only possibly make things worse so what on earth are these bellends thinking of?

If dropping him breaks him, then he needs to retire or drop down the league because he isn't good enough to be a Prem keeper in that case. If he's any good mentally, it'll kick him up the arse and make him come back stronger. You can't pick a player in poor form who's costing you goals and points because dropping them might make them cry.

If McCarthy's shit, we put Taylor in and recall Andersen / buy a new keeper.

[Schards#2]

not too sure what to make of this really, 1 mistake lets move on , 2 mistakes then , but 3 mistakes then .

Personally id give him 2 more games, if this carries on we cannot afford to be dropping anymore points needlessly, and its time for Taylor or McCarthy, harsh considering his superb form last season. Its a new season, clean sl8, and if he's costing us points then drop him, thats football.

I think a further 2 games is fair enough but it's a difficult call as by dropping him you would totally shoot any confidence he has left. What happens then if McCarthy has a poor start?

It's not as if he's an unknown quantity, we know he has it in him, he's just having a bad run. I can't see what gimps slagging him off hope to achieve though, if they think Federici or Brian aren't away that his performances haven't been great, they're living in dreamland. Vocally criticising him can only possibly make things worse so what on earth are these bellends thinking of?

If dropping him breaks him, then he needs to retire or drop down the league because he isn't good enough to be a Prem keeper in that case. If he's any good mentally, it'll kick him up the arse and make him come back stronger. You can't pick a player in poor form who's costing you goals and points because dropping them might make them cry.

If McCarthy's shit, we put Taylor in and recall Andersen / buy a new keeper.

Are you seriously suggesting McDermott won't drop a player because it might make them cry, do you really think that little of him?

He's picking Federici because he thinks he's our best keeper, when he no longer thinks that, he'll drop him. Plenty of outfield player have a run of poor form without being slung out and the faith shown in them can benefit them in the long run.

I like McCarthy but he doesn't have a lot of experience for a top flight keeper and I'm happy to back McDermott's judgement as to whether this is a blip for Federici or a long term confidence slump. He hasn't got a lot wrong so far as a manager.

[edinburghroyal]

I saw Stuart Taylor sitting in the executive box yesterday. He was smiling and seemed happy after Posh's second goal!

[Hoop Blah]

If players like Cummings have to deal with being dropped just because a rival has regained fitness (this has happened to him on at least 2 occasions) or because we have signed a rival for his place who went straight into the team, then Federici needs to deal with being dropped for making more errors in 3 games than some make in a season.

If Brian McDermott is the man I think he is, McCarthy is now pencilled in for Tottenham.

That might be the case if McDermott thought McCarthy was the better keeper. However, it seems pretty clear that he see's Federici as his number 1 and so I'd expect him to stick with him a bit longer before dropping him (as I'd expect him to treat the likes of Gunter or Guthrie who are obviously his chosen players in their respective positions).

In time I can easily see McCarthy being the better keeper, but he'll need to live up to his potential to make that happen. He'll also need games to do that and perhaps Federici's bad form will give him the opportunity to get those games.

[Arnie_Pie]

Feds must be still carrying that rib injury from the summer. All four clangers have been under his side which was injured. It is like he is scared to dive on the injury. Potential win at Sunderland, draw at Chelsea and 3-0 against Peterborough if he had not made those errors. We might not be playing well, but we would all have been happy with those results.

He needs to see a sports psychologist and pronto.

[TBM]

Feds must be still carrying that rib injury from the summer. All four clangers have been under his side which was injured.

Stoke was his left side, Chelsea was his left side - last night was his right side (for both)

[sandman]

Feds must be still carrying that rib injury from the summer. All four clangers have been under his side which was injured. It is like he is scared to dive on the injury. Potential win at Sunderland, draw at Chelsea and 3-0 against Peterborough if he had not made those errors. We might not be playing well, but we would all have been happy with those results.

He needs to see a sports psychologist and pronto.

I did notice in the warm up for the Stoke match that after he made an aerial save he was was wincing in pain for at least 10 seconds and he got up very slowly.

[Royal Lady]

If he's not fully fit, he wouldn't be playing - I'm sure of it. No way would McD risk injuring him further or allow him to make half hearted saves cos he was in a bit of pain.

[Royal Rother]

Thing is, Brian likes to keep the peace, and when McCarthy had a run in the side the other season, Feds threw a strop when he was fully fit but not straight back in the side. Is Brian strong enough for these type of situations/egos? I guess we'll know soon enough. It was Coppell's downfall as well.

+1

One of Cameron's senior bank bencher's asked him this week if he's a man or a mouse.............................this is the exact same moment in Brian's tenure.

I believe he has everything in place to become the best manager we have ever had but if he ducks issues such as these, he's destined to become Coppell MkII.

Federici should know already that he's in for a spell in the reserves in order to sort out his game and, if McCarthy is half the 'keeper I believe he is, then the former may have played his last top flight match for us.

If players like Cummings have to deal with being dropped just because a rival has regained fitness (this has happened to him on at least 2 occasions) or because we have signed a rival for his place who went straight into the team, then Federici needs to deal with being dropped for making more errors in 3 games than some make in a season.

If Brian McDermott is the man I think he is, McCarthy is now pencilled in for Tottenham.

Utter balls.

[Woodcote Royal]

If players like Cummings have to deal with being dropped just because a rival has regained fitness (this has happened to him on at least 2 occasions) or because we have signed a rival for his place who went straight into the team, then Federici needs to deal with being dropped for making more errors in 3 games than some make in a season.

If Brian McDermott is the man I think he is, McCarthy is now pencilled in for Tottenham.

That might be the case if McDermott thought McCarthy was the better keeper. However, it seems pretty clear that he see's Federici as his number 1 and so I'd expect him to stick with him a bit longer before dropping him (as I'd expect him to treat the likes of Gunter or Guthrie who are obviously his chosen players in their respective positions).

In time I can easily see McCarthy being the better keeper, but he'll need to live up to his potential to make that happen. He'll also need games to do that and perhaps Federici's bad form will give him the opportunity to get those games.

I'm sure he does (wrongly in my view) see Federici as the best 'keeper but that still shouldn't mean him keeping his place whilst he is obviously so out of form and costing his team dearly.

The desenting voices are only going get worse unless the player is taken out of the firing line for the time being whilst one of his rivals deserves their chance after 3 games when he hasn't come close to reaching the required standard.

[Woodcote Royal]

Thing is, Brian likes to keep the peace, and when McCarthy had a run in the side the other season, Feds threw a strop when he was fully fit but not straight back in the side. Is Brian strong enough for these type of situations/egos? I guess we'll know soon enough. It was Coppell's downfall as well.

+1

One of Cameron's senior bank bencher's asked him this week if he's a man or a mouse.............................this is the exact same moment in Brian's tenure.

I believe he has everything in place to become the best manager we have ever had but if he ducks issues such as these, he's destined to become Coppell MkII.

Federici should know already that he's in for a spell in the reserves in order to sort out his game and, if McCarthy is half the 'keeper I believe he is, then the former may have played his last top flight match for us.

If players like Cummings have to deal with being dropped just because a rival has regained fitness (this has happened to him on at least 2 occasions) or because we have signed a rival for his place who went straight into the team, then Federici needs to deal with being dropped for making more errors in 3 games than some make in a season.

If Brian McDermott is the man I think he is, McCarthy is now pencilled in for Tottenham.

Utter balls.

I guess it depends how far up Coppell's backside some like their head to be.

[PieEater]

It's not just Fed having problems with the new ball, look at the mistakes from other keepers over the past couple of weeks including Petr Cech.

I'm sure he'll come good against Spurs if the boo boys keep off his back.

[Hoop Blah]

If he's not fully fit, he wouldn't be playing - I'm sure of it. No way would McD risk injuring him further or allow him to make half hearted saves cos he was in a bit of pain.

It depends how bad the injury is and how much Federici has stated it isn't an issue.

Players play with knocks of sorts all the time. If Federici, Bibbo and McDermott have made the judgement that the [potential] injury isn't sufficient to keep him out of the side then he'll have been selected.

It may be that they decided the risk of changing the keeper for the first game or two, and then changing him back again, would be worse for the team than playing Federici at 85%.

[RoyalBlue]

I saw Stuart Taylor sitting in the executive box yesterday. He was smiling and seemed happy after Posh's second goal!

Are you sure? I thought he preferred sitting on the bench!

[RoyalBlue]

"made 3 great saves", captain Hollywood strikes again.

The goalkeepers job is to prevent the ball going into the net.
Our goalkeeper seems to think it is more important that it does indeed go past him and into the net.

BRING ON MCCARTHY

And (this is not aimed at Hunt) a striker's job is to put the damn ball in the net. I have lost count of the numerous occassions our strikers have failed to perform that part of their role and god knows how many points their glaring failures have cost us over the years! However, with the notable exception of the likes of McIntyre and Church, I don't recall the failing strikers being subjected to the same type and level of public criticism and abuse as Feds. GKU

[peterroyal76]

This year's ball is the same specifications as last year with the only difference being the design on the outer layer.

[Schards#2]

+1

One of Cameron's senior bank bencher's asked him this week if he's a man or a mouse.............................this is the exact same moment in Brian's tenure.

I believe he has everything in place to become the best manager we have ever had but if he ducks issues such as these, he's destined to become Coppell MkII.

Federici should know already that he's in for a spell in the reserves in order to sort out his game and, if McCarthy is half the 'keeper I believe he is, then the former may have played his last top flight match for us.

If players like Cummings have to deal with being dropped just because a rival has regained fitness (this has happened to him on at least 2 occasions) or because we have signed a rival for his place who went straight into the team, then Federici needs to deal with being dropped for making more errors in 3 games than some make in a season.

If Brian McDermott is the man I think he is, McCarthy is now pencilled in for Tottenham.

Utter balls.

I guess it depends how far up Coppell's backside some like their head to be.

Vintage Woodcote

[RoyalBlue]

"made 3 great saves", captain Hollywood strikes again.

The goalkeepers job is to prevent the ball going into the net.
Our goalkeeper seems to think it is more important that it does indeed go past him and into the net.

BRING ON MCCARTHY

And (this is not aimed at Hunt) a striker's job is to put the damn ball in the net. I have lost count of the numerous occassions our strikers have failed to perform that part of their role and god knows how many points their glaring failures have cost us over the years! However, with the notable exception of the likes of McIntyre and Church, I don't recall the failing strikers being subjected to the same type and level of public criticism and abuse as Feds. GKU

Errr... you don't???? Have you been living under a rock?
Shane Long was described as fat and useless.

I don't think it was to the extent that feds has been criticised, nor do I recall chants against him during games. Also I would wager that every other one of our strikers has made as many mistakes costing goals/points as Feds has.

It is not a level playing field - dish out golden boots but how often do you hear about golden glove awards? GKU