The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

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My managerial option would be

Richie Wellens
13
18%
Robbie Savage
5
7%
Matt Bloomfield
10
14%
Gareth Ainsworth
3
4%
Ruben Selles
7
10%
Gareth Southgate
4
6%
Michael Gilkes
1
1%
Dave Challinor
0
No votes
AN Other (please specify)
12
17%
Ian Royal
16
23%
 
Total votes: 71
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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Brogue » 28 Oct 2025 19:39

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Hound We made plenty of signings. Just not the right ones. Not Couhigs fault - JJ/Hunt/Carey must take responsibility there


As I’ve posted before, and maybe I’m naive, but I assume at well-run clubs planning for the transfer window and identification of potential replacements should we lose key players would ideally begin long before the summer, but last year we were busy spending that time circling around the toilet. No wonder we ended up scrambling for whatever was still left, and no wonder we weren’t a particularly appealing prospect for potential signings.


We lost Sam smith in January :| we got Marriott on the last day of the window. :| Couhig said he only became available on the day. What if he hadn’t been made available? would we have brought no one in? So I don’t buy it. We have Carey he should have a spreadsheet as long as your arm on players to bring in. And I’m sure he did/does. We didn’t bring the right players in because couhig was fcuking around.

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Snowflake Royal » 28 Oct 2025 19:48

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Hound We made plenty of signings. Just not the right ones. Not Couhigs fault - JJ/Hunt/Carey must take responsibility there


As I’ve posted before, and maybe I’m naive, but I assume at well-run clubs planning for the transfer window and identification of potential replacements should we lose key players would ideally begin long before the summer, but last year we were busy spending that time circling around the toilet. No wonder we ended up scrambling for whatever was still left, and no wonder we weren’t a particularly appealing prospect for potential signings.

14 games is also very early to write off signings, especially when several of them have been actively good.

Ovviously Hound is going to have a dimmer view of the signings, if he doesn’t even rate the striker who has scored 6 goals in 7(1) appearances.

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Hound » 28 Oct 2025 20:08

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Hound We made plenty of signings. Just not the right ones. Not Couhigs fault - JJ/Hunt/Carey must take responsibility there


As I’ve posted before, and maybe I’m naive, but I assume at well-run clubs planning for the transfer window and identification of potential replacements should we lose key players would ideally begin long before the summer, but last year we were busy spending that time circling around the toilet. No wonder we ended up scrambling for whatever was still left, and no wonder we weren’t a particularly appealing prospect for potential signings.

14 games is also very early to write off signings, especially when several of them have been actively good.

Ovviously Hound is going to have a dimmer view of the signings, if he doesn’t even rate the striker who has scored 6 goals in 7(1) appearances.


As i said elsewhere I don’t think any of the signings are bad players - not even MoM or Burns who you called out - just a random bunch with no real plan to get them all to work together. Jacob’s prob the one I rate the least, Kyeweraa just isn’t the player we needed and shouldn’t be anywhere near starting

I don’t rate Marriott after seeing him play plenty over the years and looking through his previous record, not just a few goals in a row, some of which have been absolute gifts. He’s a low L1/ bench player imo and doubt the scoring run will continue. He’ll always score a few but offers so little else

Maybe ok for where we are now but if we can challenge near the top I’d expect him to be sidelined pretty quickly

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Vision » 28 Oct 2025 20:37

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As I’ve posted before, and maybe I’m naive, but I assume at well-run clubs planning for the transfer window and identification of potential replacements should we lose key players would ideally begin long before the summer, but last year we were busy spending that time circling around the toilet. No wonder we ended up scrambling for whatever was still left, and no wonder we weren’t a particularly appealing prospect for potential signings.

14 games is also very early to write off signings, especially when several of them have been actively good.

Ovviously Hound is going to have a dimmer view of the signings, if he doesn’t even rate the striker who has scored 6 goals in 7(1) appearances.


As i said elsewhere I don’t think any of the signings are bad players - not even MoM or Burns who you called out - just a random bunch with no real plan to get them all to work together. Jacob’s prob the one I rate the least, Kyeweraa just isn’t the player we needed and shouldn’t be anywhere near starting

I don’t rate Marriott after seeing him play plenty over the years and looking through his previous record, not just a few goals in a row, some of which have been absolute gifts. He’s a low L1/ bench player imo and doubt the scoring run will continue. He’ll always score a few but offers so little else

Maybe ok for where we are now but if we can challenge near the top I’d expect him to be sidelined pretty quickly


Tbf our results have been ok since Marriott arrived, so I think at this stage, whatever you think might happen, he’s been a good signing.

In general I agree with your first paragraph. It strikes me we have a combo of Hunt signings, Carey signings and JJ signings. And unsurprisingly it’s been a bit chaotic.

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Royal Monkey » 28 Oct 2025 21:10

Admittedly I was underwhelmed by this appt as I thought we’d use this opportunity to bring in a more experienced ‘name’.
I have to trust the owners have thought and really looked into this appt and it’s not just a job for JJ mate. Hopefully he’ll be supported better in January to make the squad changes needed and he can generate the success he had at Wigan.
Good luck and welcome to Reading Leam, I like many fans wil give you and the team our full support as always. COYR !


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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Hound » 28 Oct 2025 21:29

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Ovviously Hound is going to have a dimmer view of the signings, if he doesn’t even rate the striker who has scored 6 goals in 7(1) appearances.


As i said elsewhere I don’t think any of the signings are bad players - not even MoM or Burns who you called out - just a random bunch with no real plan to get them all to work together. Jacob’s prob the one I rate the least, Kyeweraa just isn’t the player we needed and shouldn’t be anywhere near starting

I don’t rate Marriott after seeing him play plenty over the years and looking through his previous record, not just a few goals in a row, some of which have been absolute gifts. He’s a low L1/ bench player imo and doubt the scoring run will continue. He’ll always score a few but offers so little else

Maybe ok for where we are now but if we can challenge near the top I’d expect him to be sidelined pretty quickly


Tbf our results have been ok since Marriott arrived, so I think at this stage, whatever you think might happen, he’s been a good signing.

In general I agree with your first paragraph. It strikes me we have a combo of Hunt signings, Carey signings and JJ signings. And unsurprisingly it’s been a bit chaotic.


6 points in 6 games that he’s played more than 30 mins

He’s definitely done better than I expected and fair play some good finishes in there - just not a player you build your strike force around imo.

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Hound » 28 Oct 2025 21:32

Regarding Carey - he got a lot of credit for that window a few years back. May well have been more about Bowen after all.

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Re: The 6 poll for the next Reading manager

by WestYorksRoyal » 28 Oct 2025 21:50

It probably was more chaotic because of circumstances too. In 2023, Bowen and Carey told us all in April they had 2 target lists drawn up, one for the Championship and one for L1. Then the players recruited were really well suited for the manager too.

Here Couhig and co got the keys in May, at the end of a chaotic takeover process. Hunt wasn't their guy, but had done well enough that he deserved a chance. I had hoped we could trust Carey, but perhaps without a clear strategy all he could do was sign players who may be good individuality but not collectively. It could ultimately be another stick to beat Hunt with - Couhig has said he wants his managers to be involved in transfers, and ideally he'd have been giving Carey clear instructions on the profile of players he wanted.

We don't see the ins and outs and are speculating really, but I guess the 2026 windows allow the new owners a better planned lead in with a manager of their pick. Let's hope the strategy is clearer.

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Re: The 6 poll for the next Reading manager

by Snowflake Royal » 28 Oct 2025 23:00

WestYorksRoyal It probably was more chaotic because of circumstances too. In 2023, Bowen and Carey told us all in April they had 2 target lists drawn up, one for the Championship and one for L1. Then the players recruited were really well suited for the manager too.

Here Couhig and co got the keys in May, at the end of a chaotic takeover process. Hunt wasn't their guy, but had done well enough that he deserved a chance. I had hoped we could trust Carey, but perhaps without a clear strategy all he could do was sign players who may be good individuality but not collectively. It could ultimately be another stick to beat Hunt with - Couhig has said he wants his managers to be involved in transfers, and ideally he'd have been giving Carey clear instructions on the profile of players he wanted.

We don't see the ins and outs and are speculating really, but I guess the 2026 windows allow the new owners a better planned lead in with a manager of their pick. Let's hope the strategy is clearer.

It's worth remembering just how few senior players still contracted we had to start from.

We should remember It's not just O'Conner, Marriott, Williams et al we signed. But also Wing, Pereira, Ehibhatiomhan etc.

I think there’s been a fairly good plan, but with limited success.

From the back, we got Pereira tied down and added Stevens, and experienced L1 keeper to be No. 2. Yeah he's not great. But that’s pretty solid business. At least on a par with Button, and likely cheaper, certainly better than CBC.

Then at CB, we needed an experienced L1 defender, we got him in O'Conner. We went for a younger partner on loan with potential to complement him. Plus Dorsett and Stickland as cover. Unfortunately Burns is also quite slow and a bit error prone. And Stickland hasn't been good enough. So we then acted quickly to being in more experience in O'Connor's absence with Williams.

So far it's all pretty sensible stuff.

A plethora of not quite good enough or untested LBs so we bring in Jacob. He's been hit and miss. But development time for the others.

Craig leaves, so Fraser comes in. Pretty solid business there. Fraser has been fine.

The issue is really at the front. Where talent is more expensive, and we were practically bare bones.

Kyerewaa's more a one to develop with potential. Ritchie's got bags of experience. Lane is proven quality and has shown glimpses of it. And if he doesn’t miss 3 practically open goals in two games Hunt is probably still manager and we're lower midtable.

We've probably gone for too many wishwashy forwards and not enough proper strikers. And no one has really made themselves standout (except for Marriott's goals) but I think you can see a plan. It’s just the defence has barely played together, the forwards are not gelling yet, and too many of the signings and re-signings have been ok at best, when you'd hope for a higher hit rate.


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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Hound » 29 Oct 2025 07:12

I guess Fraser/craig for me is a good example of the issue.

No problem at all with Fraser, solid player and good stats. But he has been pretty average overall and Hunt didn’t know where to play him and was largely benched. If Brogue is telling the truth on a fallout then maybe an attitude issue as well

Craig was also a solid midfielder, came up through the academy, knew the place well and we knew what he could do.

On paper Fraser maybe even feels like an upgrade, but the reality was we didn’t know him well, maybe hasn’t fitted in brilliantly, and don’t know how to get the best out of him

Similar stories in other positions - Kyeweraa over Camara/Kelvin. Jacob over Dorsett/Ryan etc

Williams, Marriott, Ritchie. All look handy but all have got injured - coincidence? 30+ players coming in, not had a proper pre season, maybe not played this level for a while consistently. Williams on the back of a US season. My guess is we weren’t going to sign any of them until other players didn’t work out. We’ve suffered when Williams and Ritchie been out.

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Snowflake Royal » 29 Oct 2025 07:55

Hound I guess Fraser/craig for me is a good example of the issue.

No problem at all with Fraser, solid player and good stats. But he has been pretty average overall and Hunt didn’t know where to play him and was largely benched. If Brogue is telling the truth on a fallout then maybe an attitude issue as well

Craig was also a solid midfielder, came up through the academy, knew the place well and we knew what he could do.

On paper Fraser maybe even feels like an upgrade, but the reality was we didn’t know him well, maybe hasn’t fitted in brilliantly, and don’t know how to get the best out of him

Similar stories in other positions - Kyeweraa over Camara/Kelvin. Jacob over Dorsett/Ryan etc

Williams, Marriott, Ritchie. All look handy but all have got injured - coincidence? 30+ players coming in, not had a proper pre season, maybe not played this level for a while consistently. Williams on the back of a US season. My guess is we weren’t going to sign any of them until other players didn’t work out. We’ve suffered when Williams and Ritchie been out.

I mean, as a replacement for Craig, he was pretty much brought in as bench cover not a starter.

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by WestYorksRoyal » 29 Oct 2025 08:00

Hound I guess Fraser/craig for me is a good example of the issue.

No problem at all with Fraser, solid player and good stats. But he has been pretty average overall and Hunt didn’t know where to play him and was largely benched. If Brogue is telling the truth on a fallout then maybe an attitude issue as well

Craig was also a solid midfielder, came up through the academy, knew the place well and we knew what he could do.

On paper Fraser maybe even feels like an upgrade, but the reality was we didn’t know him well, maybe hasn’t fitted in brilliantly, and don’t know how to get the best out of him

Similar stories in other positions - Kyeweraa over Camara/Kelvin. Jacob over Dorsett/Ryan etc

Williams, Marriott, Ritchie. All look handy but all have got injured - coincidence? 30+ players coming in, not had a proper pre season, maybe not played this level for a while consistently. Williams on the back of a US season. My guess is we weren’t going to sign any of them until other players didn’t work out. We’ve suffered when Williams and Ritchie been out.

Agree having seen Kyerewaa a bit, I would have preferred leave space for an academy player. And Jacob too.

But what were we to do about Craig? Promise him first team football we couldn't realistically offer? Pay higher wages that don't reflect his role in the squad? Sometimes you just have to accept some player turnover. Ideally we'd have got him to renew well before the summer, and I hope the owners are proactive with players they want to keep.

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Hound » 29 Oct 2025 08:16

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Hound I guess Fraser/craig for me is a good example of the issue.

No problem at all with Fraser, solid player and good stats. But he has been pretty average overall and Hunt didn’t know where to play him and was largely benched. If Brogue is telling the truth on a fallout then maybe an attitude issue as well

Craig was also a solid midfielder, came up through the academy, knew the place well and we knew what he could do.

On paper Fraser maybe even feels like an upgrade, but the reality was we didn’t know him well, maybe hasn’t fitted in brilliantly, and don’t know how to get the best out of him

Similar stories in other positions - Kyeweraa over Camara/Kelvin. Jacob over Dorsett/Ryan etc

Williams, Marriott, Ritchie. All look handy but all have got injured - coincidence? 30+ players coming in, not had a proper pre season, maybe not played this level for a while consistently. Williams on the back of a US season. My guess is we weren’t going to sign any of them until other players didn’t work out. We’ve suffered when Williams and Ritchie been out.

I mean, as a replacement for Craig, he was pretty much brought in as bench cover not a starter.


I doubt he was told that when he signed. He was starting when he first signed iirc

Same still applies anyway.


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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Snowflake Royal » 29 Oct 2025 08:50

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Hound I guess Fraser/craig for me is a good example of the issue.

No problem at all with Fraser, solid player and good stats. But he has been pretty average overall and Hunt didn’t know where to play him and was largely benched. If Brogue is telling the truth on a fallout then maybe an attitude issue as well

Craig was also a solid midfielder, came up through the academy, knew the place well and we knew what he could do.

On paper Fraser maybe even feels like an upgrade, but the reality was we didn’t know him well, maybe hasn’t fitted in brilliantly, and don’t know how to get the best out of him

Similar stories in other positions - Kyeweraa over Camara/Kelvin. Jacob over Dorsett/Ryan etc

Williams, Marriott, Ritchie. All look handy but all have got injured - coincidence? 30+ players coming in, not had a proper pre season, maybe not played this level for a while consistently. Williams on the back of a US season. My guess is we weren’t going to sign any of them until other players didn’t work out. We’ve suffered when Williams and Ritchie been out.

I mean, as a replacement for Craig, he was pretty much brought in as bench cover not a starter.


I doubt he was told that when he signed. He was starting when he first signed iirc

Same still applies anyway.

He started a few games after we lost our opening one or two and Hunt tried an on paper sturdier midfield without Doyle or Elliott, which didn't work.

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Extended-Phenotype » 29 Oct 2025 08:52

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Extended-Phenotype I mean, it isn’t particularly cultist to believe the owners, privy to 99% more information than the average fan while wanting pretty much the same thing in terms of success, might sign a decent candidate.

If that’s Leam Richardson, fine. I get that what the owners want/can spend doesn’t always align with what the fans demand we spend, but it’s not really in their best interests to sign any old oxf*rd just because they are cheap. There must be something about him. I’m sure his record came up in conversation, and perhaps the owners think the some eras are more relevant than others.

The charge that people are “brainwashed” in favour of Couhig seems conversely applicable to those who preemptively insist he can do no right.


Just out of interest what has he done right.? Not trying to be contrary, but in his first 6 months what’s he done right?. And I get all the steadying the ship financially, I’m not interested in all that, that’s a given and something any new owner would have done. I’m on about the day to day operational decisions of running a football club. What are his achievements so far.

Appointed a new CEO who is inexperienced and not up to the job imo. Was naive to bring in someone like that with the club on its knees.

Weaker squad than last season. Over hyped expectations in the transfer market and where we would finish

Lost Nigel Gibbs missed out on our preferred number two and replaced him with Scott Marshall - who is awful.

Spent all his time going on about how the beer should be cold and the hot dogs hot. But here we are 6 months in nothing has changed on the match day experience and if anything his flagship policy of getting a good tannoy system has got worse

He’s fired a manager and looking to replace him with someone who looks like won’t be any sort of upgrade.

We’ve lost the greyhound car park

Match day tickets have increased

We’ve lost paper tickets

Car parking prices have increased

Ticket office opening hours have reduced

Can’t order tickets from the ticket office anymore.

Lots of redundancies

Stadium still looks run down

Royals TV is worse than having bbc berks as the official commentary


If someone could provide a list things he’s improved I’d be keen to know.


I think not giving him ANY credit for figuring out and persevering with the acquisition of the club, and arguing “anyone would have done that” is a bit dismissive. I don’t personally believe we could have or would have been bought without some form of legal trapping, and prising Reading from Dai’s clutches deserves recognition as a rather extraordinary achievement.

I’m not very knowledgeable on Joe Jacobson, but I think it’s worth remembering that much like player signings, Reading are working within the limitations of what we can afford and who wants to work here. It’s a bit early days to say this appointment is a poor one, and it kinda exemplifies my point about shit-tinted sunglasses where Rob is concerned. This needs to be a bad signing, therefore just say it is without much evidence.

A lot of arguments are made about the squad being weaker, but there are a couple of reasonable counters to that. First, same as above, we are working within limitations that naive fans operate without. Second, the players that left haven’t really gone on to shine elsewhere. Bindon, Smith and Knibbs aren’t really playing. This typically suggests a team being greater than the sum of its parts, and that team aspect is something a manager creates. Third, the players who have come in may be flopping, but they aren’t necessarily flops. O’Conner, Williams, Richie and Marriott have all been good acquisitions. Kyereewa, Lane and Doyle have a lot of promise that might be realised yet.

Your disappointment with Leam isn’t surprising, but it’s a bit disingenuous to use this signing as an example of a poor decision before we’ve even seen a game under his tenure. Reading are a side who can’t sign big name, top drawer managers. So we have to sign ones that aren’t obvious. Leam’s record is patchy, and that’s why we can get him. The hope is that the fantastic form he has had is what we will get here, rather than the bad form that keeps him from being a manager for teams above Reading. This has as much potential to be a shrewd signing as a poor one. We just don’t know yet.

As for prices going up and costs coming down - what did you expect for a club being stewarded out of a financial hole? It’s precisely this financial strategy that will make Reading a stable club again with a future.

In the end, I have no strong opinion on the owners one way or the other. It’s just too early to hysterically frame them as Satan’s spawn, and too soon to argue that any of their decisions have turned this club around. All we have is evidence of someone trying to beat a path for the club and while it may bend in unexpected or questionable directions sometimes we ultimately won’t know if the path was good until we get where we want to be, or fail to.

Let’s see how Leam gets on. I mean, it sounds like Rob sacked Hunt for the right reasons (he said himself Reading lacked an identity and a strategy). So Leam must have sold himself on this. He might bring some form out of struggling players like Lane and Doyle. He might start afresh and try Wing in a different position, closer to the action. He might give different players a chance. Who knows what positive effects he might have before we have a meltdown and use the signing as yet another stick to bash the owners with in what seems like a pretty relentless crusade of making sticks out of anything to hand.

I just think it’s kinda weird, tbh. Everything is binary these days - something has to either be amazing else it’s absolute toilet, someone has to heroically angelic else deplorably evil. It’s so Gen Z. I’m personally a fan of nuance, though I appreciate it’s a dirty word in 2025.

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Hendo » 29 Oct 2025 09:01

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Extended-Phenotype I mean, it isn’t particularly cultist to believe the owners, privy to 99% more information than the average fan while wanting pretty much the same thing in terms of success, might sign a decent candidate.

If that’s Leam Richardson, fine. I get that what the owners want/can spend doesn’t always align with what the fans demand we spend, but it’s not really in their best interests to sign any old oxf*rd just because they are cheap. There must be something about him. I’m sure his record came up in conversation, and perhaps the owners think the some eras are more relevant than others.

The charge that people are “brainwashed” in favour of Couhig seems conversely applicable to those who preemptively insist he can do no right.


Just out of interest what has he done right.? Not trying to be contrary, but in his first 6 months what’s he done right?. And I get all the steadying the ship financially, I’m not interested in all that, that’s a given and something any new owner would have done. I’m on about the day to day operational decisions of running a football club. What are his achievements so far.

Appointed a new CEO who is inexperienced and not up to the job imo. Was naive to bring in someone like that with the club on its knees.

Weaker squad than last season. Over hyped expectations in the transfer market and where we would finish

Lost Nigel Gibbs missed out on our preferred number two and replaced him with Scott Marshall - who is awful.

Spent all his time going on about how the beer should be cold and the hot dogs hot. But here we are 6 months in nothing has changed on the match day experience and if anything his flagship policy of getting a good tannoy system has got worse

He’s fired a manager and looking to replace him with someone who looks like won’t be any sort of upgrade.

We’ve lost the greyhound car park

Match day tickets have increased

We’ve lost paper tickets

Car parking prices have increased

Ticket office opening hours have reduced

Can’t order tickets from the ticket office anymore.

Lots of redundancies

Stadium still looks run down

Royals TV is worse than having bbc berks as the official commentary


If someone could provide a list things he’s improved I’d be keen to know.


I think not giving him ANY credit for figuring out and persevering with the acquisition of the club, and arguing “anyone would have done that” is a bit dismissive. I don’t personally believe we could have or would have been bought without some form of legal trapping, and prising Reading from Dai’s clutches deserves recognition as a rather extraordinary achievement.

I’m not very knowledgeable on Joe Jacobson, but I think it’s worth remembering that much like player signings, Reading are working within the limitations of what we can afford and who wants to work here. It’s a bit early days to say this appointment is a poor one, and it kinda exemplifies my point about shit-tinted sunglasses where Rob is concerned. This needs to be a bad signing, therefore just say it is without much evidence.

A lot of arguments are made about the squad being weaker, but there are a couple of reasonable counters to that. First, same as above, we are working within limitations that naive fans operate without. Second, the players that left haven’t really gone on to shine elsewhere. Bindon, Smith and Knibbs aren’t really playing. This typically suggests a team being greater than the sum of its parts, and that team aspect is something a manager creates. Third, the players who have come in may be flopping, but they aren’t necessarily flops. O’Conner, Williams, Richie and Marriott have all been good acquisitions. Kyereewa, Lane and Doyle have a lot of promise that might be realised yet.

Your disappointment with Leam isn’t surprising, but it’s a bit disingenuous to use this signing as an example of a poor decision before we’ve even seen a game under his tenure. Reading are a side who can’t sign big name, top drawer managers. So we have to sign ones that aren’t obvious. Leam’s record is patchy, and that’s why we can get him. The hope is that the fantastic form he has had is what we will get here, rather than the bad form that keeps him from being a manager for teams above Reading. This has as much potential to be a shrewd signing as a poor one. We just don’t know yet.

As for prices going up and costs coming down - what did you expect for a club being stewarded out of a financial hole? It’s precisely this financial strategy that will make Reading a stable club again with a future.

In the end, I have no strong opinion on the owners one way or the other. It’s just too early to hysterically frame them as Satan’s spawn, and too soon to argue that any of their decisions have turned this club around. All we have is evidence of someone trying to beat a path for the club and while it may bend in unexpected or questionable directions sometimes we ultimately won’t know if the path was good until we get where we want to be, or fail to.

Let’s see how Leam gets on. I mean, it sounds like Rob sacked Hunt for the right reasons (he said himself Reading lacked an identity and a strategy). So Leam must have sold himself on this. He might bring some form out of struggling players like Lane and Doyle. He might start afresh and try Wing in a different position, closer to the action. He might give different players a chance. Who knows what positive effects he might have before we have a meltdown and use the signing as yet another stick to bash the owners with in what seems like a pretty relentless crusade of making sticks out of anything to hand.

I just think it’s kinda weird, tbh. Everything is binary these days - something has to either be amazing else it’s absolute toilet, someone has to heroically angelic else deplorably evil. It’s so Gen Z. I’m personally a fan of nuance, though I appreciate it’s a dirty word in 2025.


A whole lot of +1 to that.

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Sutekh » 29 Oct 2025 09:03

At least he was a defender in his playing days so hopefully can sort things out at the back with ideas and advice and that would give a nice base from which to begin.

Hoping Beattie will do the same for the strikers.

Any comments from Rotherham (2nd home league game for Leam) and Wigan (1st away league game for Leam) fans on Mr Richardson?

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by Hound » 29 Oct 2025 09:07

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Just out of interest what has he done right.? Not trying to be contrary, but in his first 6 months what’s he done right?. And I get all the steadying the ship financially, I’m not interested in all that, that’s a given and something any new owner would have done. I’m on about the day to day operational decisions of running a football club. What are his achievements so far.

Appointed a new CEO who is inexperienced and not up to the job imo. Was naive to bring in someone like that with the club on its knees.

Weaker squad than last season. Over hyped expectations in the transfer market and where we would finish

Lost Nigel Gibbs missed out on our preferred number two and replaced him with Scott Marshall - who is awful.

Spent all his time going on about how the beer should be cold and the hot dogs hot. But here we are 6 months in nothing has changed on the match day experience and if anything his flagship policy of getting a good tannoy system has got worse

He’s fired a manager and looking to replace him with someone who looks like won’t be any sort of upgrade.

We’ve lost the greyhound car park

Match day tickets have increased

We’ve lost paper tickets

Car parking prices have increased

Ticket office opening hours have reduced

Can’t order tickets from the ticket office anymore.

Lots of redundancies

Stadium still looks run down

Royals TV is worse than having bbc berks as the official commentary


If someone could provide a list things he’s improved I’d be keen to know.


I think not giving him ANY credit for figuring out and persevering with the acquisition of the club, and arguing “anyone would have done that” is a bit dismissive. I don’t personally believe we could have or would have been bought without some form of legal trapping, and prising Reading from Dai’s clutches deserves recognition as a rather extraordinary achievement.

I’m not very knowledgeable on Joe Jacobson, but I think it’s worth remembering that much like player signings, Reading are working within the limitations of what we can afford and who wants to work here. It’s a bit early days to say this appointment is a poor one, and it kinda exemplifies my point about shit-tinted sunglasses where Rob is concerned. This needs to be a bad signing, therefore just say it is without much evidence.

A lot of arguments are made about the squad being weaker, but there are a couple of reasonable counters to that. First, same as above, we are working within limitations that naive fans operate without. Second, the players that left haven’t really gone on to shine elsewhere. Bindon, Smith and Knibbs aren’t really playing. This typically suggests a team being greater than the sum of its parts, and that team aspect is something a manager creates. Third, the players who have come in may be flopping, but they aren’t necessarily flops. O’Conner, Williams, Richie and Marriott have all been good acquisitions. Kyereewa, Lane and Doyle have a lot of promise that might be realised yet.

Your disappointment with Leam isn’t surprising, but it’s a bit disingenuous to use this signing as an example of a poor decision before we’ve even seen a game under his tenure. Reading are a side who can’t sign big name, top drawer managers. So we have to sign ones that aren’t obvious. Leam’s record is patchy, and that’s why we can get him. The hope is that the fantastic form he has had is what we will get here, rather than the bad form that keeps him from being a manager for teams above Reading. This has as much potential to be a shrewd signing as a poor one. We just don’t know yet.

As for prices going up and costs coming down - what did you expect for a club being stewarded out of a financial hole? It’s precisely this financial strategy that will make Reading a stable club again with a future.

In the end, I have no strong opinion on the owners one way or the other. It’s just too early to hysterically frame them as Satan’s spawn, and too soon to argue that any of their decisions have turned this club around. All we have is evidence of someone trying to beat a path for the club and while it may bend in unexpected or questionable directions sometimes we ultimately won’t know if the path was good until we get where we want to be, or fail to.

Let’s see how Leam gets on. I mean, it sounds like Rob sacked Hunt for the right reasons (he said himself Reading lacked an identity and a strategy). So Leam must have sold himself on this. He might bring some form out of struggling players like Lane and Doyle. He might start afresh and try Wing in a different position, closer to the action. He might give different players a chance. Who knows what positive effects he might have before we have a meltdown and use the signing as yet another stick to bash the owners with in what seems like a pretty relentless crusade of making sticks out of anything to hand.

I just think it’s kinda weird, tbh. Everything is binary these days - something has to either be amazing else it’s absolute toilet, someone has to heroically angelic else deplorably evil. It’s so Gen Z. I’m personally a fan of nuance, though I appreciate it’s a dirty word in 2025.


A whole lot of +1 to that.


Yep, good and sensible post. Agree with a lot of that

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by SouthDownsRoyal » 29 Oct 2025 09:13

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I think not giving him ANY credit for figuring out and persevering with the acquisition of the club, and arguing “anyone would have done that” is a bit dismissive. I don’t personally believe we could have or would have been bought without some form of legal trapping, and prising Reading from Dai’s clutches deserves recognition as a rather extraordinary achievement.

I’m not very knowledgeable on Joe Jacobson, but I think it’s worth remembering that much like player signings, Reading are working within the limitations of what we can afford and who wants to work here. It’s a bit early days to say this appointment is a poor one, and it kinda exemplifies my point about shit-tinted sunglasses where Rob is concerned. This needs to be a bad signing, therefore just say it is without much evidence.

A lot of arguments are made about the squad being weaker, but there are a couple of reasonable counters to that. First, same as above, we are working within limitations that naive fans operate without. Second, the players that left haven’t really gone on to shine elsewhere. Bindon, Smith and Knibbs aren’t really playing. This typically suggests a team being greater than the sum of its parts, and that team aspect is something a manager creates. Third, the players who have come in may be flopping, but they aren’t necessarily flops. O’Conner, Williams, Richie and Marriott have all been good acquisitions. Kyereewa, Lane and Doyle have a lot of promise that might be realised yet.

Your disappointment with Leam isn’t surprising, but it’s a bit disingenuous to use this signing as an example of a poor decision before we’ve even seen a game under his tenure. Reading are a side who can’t sign big name, top drawer managers. So we have to sign ones that aren’t obvious. Leam’s record is patchy, and that’s why we can get him. The hope is that the fantastic form he has had is what we will get here, rather than the bad form that keeps him from being a manager for teams above Reading. This has as much potential to be a shrewd signing as a poor one. We just don’t know yet.

As for prices going up and costs coming down - what did you expect for a club being stewarded out of a financial hole? It’s precisely this financial strategy that will make Reading a stable club again with a future.

In the end, I have no strong opinion on the owners one way or the other. It’s just too early to hysterically frame them as Satan’s spawn, and too soon to argue that any of their decisions have turned this club around. All we have is evidence of someone trying to beat a path for the club and while it may bend in unexpected or questionable directions sometimes we ultimately won’t know if the path was good until we get where we want to be, or fail to.

Let’s see how Leam gets on. I mean, it sounds like Rob sacked Hunt for the right reasons (he said himself Reading lacked an identity and a strategy). So Leam must have sold himself on this. He might bring some form out of struggling players like Lane and Doyle. He might start afresh and try Wing in a different position, closer to the action. He might give different players a chance. Who knows what positive effects he might have before we have a meltdown and use the signing as yet another stick to bash the owners with in what seems like a pretty relentless crusade of making sticks out of anything to hand.

I just think it’s kinda weird, tbh. Everything is binary these days - something has to either be amazing else it’s absolute toilet, someone has to heroically angelic else deplorably evil. It’s so Gen Z. I’m personally a fan of nuance, though I appreciate it’s a dirty word in 2025.


A whole lot of +1 to that.


Yep, good and sensible post. Agree with a lot of that


+1 nice to read a sensible measured post

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Re: The inevitable poll for the next Reading manager

by The Cap » 29 Oct 2025 09:38

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A whole lot of +1 to that.


Yep, good and sensible post. Agree with a lot of that


+1 nice to read a sensible measured post


Excellent post. Satan's spawn :lol:

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