working class hero If only Guthrie had played more we'd be looking to play in Europe....NOT.
Quite why he is so lionised baffles me. He did little... Then perhaps his poor little overpaid head wasn't quite right?
Idealworking class hero If only Guthrie had played more we'd be looking to play in Europe....NOT.
Quite why he is so lionised baffles me. He did little... Then perhaps his poor little overpaid head wasn't quite right?
Everyone on here have been claiming McD was at fault for not playing him, and made it sound like if only we'd played him more we'd be cruising.
Now that he played he looked distinctly shit.
winchester_royal I think you'll find most blame Briam for bringing him to the club in the first place as one of our 'marquee' signings with the intention of improving our squad to the point where it could compete.
royalZILLAAA Most of you are a bunch of oxf*rd oxf*rd. What did you really expect today?
Grow the oxf*rd up. It's one game, away at a club that have ALWAYS made us look stupid, with only a week and a bit for boss to assess what he's working with.
We'll probably contend for promotion next year, you over-reactionary oxf*rd.
winchester_royal Reading fans are complete mongs. 'It's like having Rodgers back' someone said behind me after we tried to keep the ball for longer than 5 seconds.
Twixwinchester_royal Reading fans are complete mongs. 'It's like having Rodgers back' someone said behind me after we tried to keep the ball for longer than 5 seconds.
I think that's a fair assessment, in both instances a manager tried to implement a passing style on players that aren't comfortable with it, Leigertwood at Mariappa both made some shocking passes deep in our own half the later leading to a penalty.
Of course Rogers was playing average Championship sides not Arsenal and admits he tried to change too much too soon, I'm sure Adkins' will fare better.
Sanguine A fair assessment after one game? One game? Really?
No, I mean, seriously?
windermere_royalSanguine A fair assessment after one game? One game? Really?
No, I mean, seriously?
It was all so predictable, been like a bomb waiting to go off immediately we lost to Arsenal which was always going to happen.
LoyalRoyal22working class hero If only Guthrie had played more we'd be looking to play in Europe....NOT.
Quite why he is so lionised baffles me. He did little... Then perhaps his poor little overpaid head wasn't quite right?
Agreed he is not that great. But he is our most talented CM.
WimbLoyalRoyal22working class hero If only Guthrie had played more we'd be looking to play in Europe....NOT.
Quite why he is so lionised baffles me. He did little... Then perhaps his poor little overpaid head wasn't quite right?
Agreed he is not that great. But he is our most talented CM.
And there ladies and gents is exactly why we're going down
Twixwinchester_royal Reading fans are complete mongs. 'It's like having Rodgers back' someone said behind me after we tried to keep the ball for longer than 5 seconds.
I think that's a fair assessment, in both instances a manager tried to implement a passing style on players that aren't comfortable with it, Leigertwood at Mariappa both made some shocking passes deep in our own half the later leading to a penalty.
Of course Rogers was playing average Championship sides not Arsenal and admits he tried to change too much too soon, I'm sure Adkins' will fare better.
sandmanKingsley Junior I didn't think today was all that bad tbh. I'm not sure what people are expecting really. Arsenal can be a bit lightweight at times and inconsistent, but when they are good, they are very, very good. And today was one of those days. Meanwhile, we had a team made up of the same players that have been not quite up to this level for large parts of the season...
I felt there were positives, definitely. We started well the first few minutes, we had a few good spells during the game. We tried to pass it more, perhaps in areas where we were never going to do Arsenal any harm but it's something to build off. The key thing for me was that the players were visibly trying something asked of them by a manager who has been their boss less than a week. They are obviously receptive to his ideas, and that is going to be important going forward. No, I did not particularly enjoy watching us get mostly outplayed for 90 minutes, but I pretty much expected it when I bought my ticket. We needed Arsenal to have an off day to have a hope of getting something out of the game, and I was happy to at least get a goal and show some fight.
As I recall, our much better "106 team" lost 4-0 at home to Arsenal in our first season up. I don't think our results against Arsenal are really any kind of barometer of where we are at. The Wigan result today probably makes our next 7 games largely meaningless, but I'm very optimistic about next season. Large numbers of players that got us up before, some new faces likely to be brought in too, and a manager who has four promotions on his record in the last six or so years.
That Arsenal team had Henry, Fabregas and RVP in it. This one has Gervinho, Ramsey and Giroud.
Kingsley Junior We will come back with some lessons learned. It seems people expect miracles.
Kingsley JuniorsandmanKingsley Junior I didn't think today was all that bad tbh. I'm not sure what people are expecting really. Arsenal can be a bit lightweight at times and inconsistent, but when they are good, they are very, very good. And today was one of those days. Meanwhile, we had a team made up of the same players that have been not quite up to this level for large parts of the season...
I felt there were positives, definitely. We started well the first few minutes, we had a few good spells during the game. We tried to pass it more, perhaps in areas where we were never going to do Arsenal any harm but it's something to build off. The key thing for me was that the players were visibly trying something asked of them by a manager who has been their boss less than a week. They are obviously receptive to his ideas, and that is going to be important going forward. No, I did not particularly enjoy watching us get mostly outplayed for 90 minutes, but I pretty much expected it when I bought my ticket. We needed Arsenal to have an off day to have a hope of getting something out of the game, and I was happy to at least get a goal and show some fight.
As I recall, our much better "106 team" lost 4-0 at home to Arsenal in our first season up. I don't think our results against Arsenal are really any kind of barometer of where we are at. The Wigan result today probably makes our next 7 games largely meaningless, but I'm very optimistic about next season. Large numbers of players that got us up before, some new faces likely to be brought in too, and a manager who has four promotions on his record in the last six or so years.
That Arsenal team had Henry, Fabregas and RVP in it. This one has Gervinho, Ramsey and Giroud.
That Arsenal team also had Hoyte, Djourou and Hleb, this one also had Cazorla who would walk into that RVP team... I get your point, but our better side lost to a better Arsenal side, our lesser side lost to a (not as lesser as some would have you believe) Arsenal side by a slightly smaller margin... losing to Arsenal is not a measure of how good we are now, our team that came 8th would have lost comfortably today, Henry and Fabregas or Arteta and Cazorla. I just think there has been far too much of a negative reaction to today. We have spent less than every other team in the league as far as I can tell and were starting from a base of Championship players - we have no divine right to finish higher than 20th. Maybe we should therefore have spent more, yes, but it seems people expect miracles. We will go back down, we will come back up, and hopefully we will come back with some lessons learned. That's as much as this club can reasonably expect for now.
parkyKingsley Junior We will come back with some lessons learned. It seems people expect miracles.
The miracle would be learning a lesson. We didn't learn from 4 years ago why would we learn this time?
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