Marek... a debate

[Ian Royal]

In your opinion. There are plenty of others who have named Ivar, some Shunt, some Henry.

[AthleticoSpizz]

In your opinion. There are plenty of others who have named Ivar, some Shunt, some Henry.

A reasonable return to the team Winchester, but as for M o t M ?

Too many stray dispocessional passes for that

[winchester_royal]

In your opinion. There are plenty of others who have named Ivar, some Shunt, some Henry.

A reasonable return to the team Winchester, but as for M o t M ?

Too many stray dispocessional passes for that

For me there was no one who was any better, lets put it that way.

[winchester_royal]

In your opinion. There are plenty of others who have named Ivar, some Shunt, some Henry.

Only SCIAG named Henry.

HuntS was useless last night, despite what those idiots from B'Pool said.

Ivar was good.

[AthleticoSpizz]

In your opinion. There are plenty of others who have named Ivar, some Shunt, some Henry.

A reasonable return to the team Winchester, but as for M o t M ?

Too many stray dispocessional passes for that

For me there was no one who was any better, lets put it that way.

didn't see Iceland 1 and 2 make so many errors , a goal and a near goal between them, accounting for all but one of our shots on target.

However, it was Mareks first full game.........onwards

[winchester_royal]

TBF I am not sure where all these errors were spitzy. He made a couple of through balls which slightly over run or under hit, but that will be the case with all players in his style, even Fabregas. He hardly made any errors which put the defence in danger. Gunnar did shit all throughout the game, too slow to play 90 mins IMHO.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Gunnar did shit all throughout the game, too slow to play 90 mins IMHO.

ok, so you weren't there last night then....or is this an extension of last seasons criticisms?


When it comes to mistakes, the players need to grow their hair a bit so as folk like you can disguinguish between them.

[winchester_royal]

Gunnar did shit all throughout the game, too slow to play 90 mins IMHO.

ok, so you weren't there last night then....or is this an extension of last seasons criticisms?


When it comes to mistakes, the players need to grow their hair a bit so as folk like you can disguinguish between them.

OK, maybe shit all is harsh, but in terms of influencing our attacking play, Gunnar was close to irrelevant, whilst Marek was influential.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Gunnar did shit all throughout the game, too slow to play 90 mins IMHO.

ok, so you weren't there last night then....or is this an extension of last seasons criticisms?


When it comes to mistakes, the players need to grow their hair a bit so as folk like you can disguinguish between them.

OK, maybe shit all is harsh, but in terms of influencing our attacking play, Gunnar was close to irrelevant, whilst Marek was influential.

yes, but I was impressed with Mareks defensive cameos

[facaldaqui]

Let me join the queue (it can't be said often enough) to say that this was Marek's (and Henry's) first full game. It's axiomatic among managers that players need a few games (usually) to get into their stride. However, this does raise the question of whether to risk this period of adaptation. Coppell has often been, rightly, accused of conservatism (it's not favouritism, however); but I can sympathise with his dilemma. With every point vital and the team doing well (but not brilliantly), making changes must make him nervous. If waiting a few games for certain players to get going led to losing points, Birmingham and Wolves might disappear over the horizon with their backsides on fire.

On the other hand, I see Marek as part of our plans along with the others. I disagree with the notion expressed on this thread that he might be too visonary for us. It's up to him to adjust his passing style to our players (passing it to where they can use it is surely the ultimate passing skill). And since if we go up we are (on past experience) likely to be playing much the same team as now, the argument that his style will be better suited to the premier doesn't hold water. The illusion of more space in the premier is created by the fact that the teams attack us more, which is hardly a relaxing situation.

I also disagree with those who say that Marek doesn't fit in because we are limited to a wing system. But Coppell is not that naive. He knows that a good team has options rather than playing in a predictable way that opposition teams can set out to stifle. So, for the future, I see Marek as well as the other midfielders providing a range of alternatives to deploy against the opposition, either from the start or as events develop in a game. So long as they are all fit, Coppell has a very strong hand, and Marek an important role, to play. I hope Marek understands this and stays.

[Royal Fleet]

Sorry Sun Tzu, did you see Marek looking up at the ref afterwards?..........getting little sympathy, he buried his face into the turf, and rolled around like he had just been shot.

I think he just wanted to check it was Lee Hendrie that had kicked him, and seeing that it was, just did what all of us would have done in doing the upmost to get him sent off. I can't see your argument with that tbh...

[Son of Len]

How is taking someone out with your studs ever a yellow card ?

It was late as well.

it used to be called a "late tackle" once upon a time

Sorry Sun Tzu, did you see Marek looking up at the ref afterwards?..........getting little sympathy, he buried his face into the turf, and rolled around like he had just been shot.

Like many of our opposition under the same circumstances, despite being "near to death" he got up and ran like a "greased gazelle" once the red card had been shown.

If that is your way of enjoying football..........just remember it works both ways.

Me?...... I think it spoiled the game, I don't want to see it

Marek Matejovsky = greased gazelle. Never thought I'd see that one!

[bcubed]

Gunnar did shit all throughout the game, too slow to play 90 mins IMHO.

ok, so you weren't there last night then....or is this an extension of last seasons criticisms?


When it comes to mistakes, the players need to grow their hair a bit so as folk like you can disguinguish between them.

OK, maybe shit all is harsh, but in terms of influencing our attacking play, Gunnar was close to irrelevant, whilst Marek was influential.

If I had any doubts that many people on here are incapable of objective analysis this thread proves it.

I have no axe to grind about any of our players but anyone watching that first half who thought Marek played well is either ignorant of all things football or more likely just seeing what they want to see.

In half an hour Marek gave the ball away more than 6 times, made zero tackles and played one decent through pass. He looked lacking in fitness and confidence and was below par to say the least.

I personally think he is worth starting with and has clearly played many better games than this, but please don't come on here and tell us he played well. It's simply not true

[facaldaqui]

And Gunnar nearly scored again, with a decent shot.

[Stranded]

Gunnar did shit all throughout the game, too slow to play 90 mins IMHO.

ok, so you weren't there last night then....or is this an extension of last seasons criticisms?


When it comes to mistakes, the players need to grow their hair a bit so as folk like you can disguinguish between them.

OK, maybe shit all is harsh, but in terms of influencing our attacking play, Gunnar was close to irrelevant, whilst Marek was influential.

Not really a stirring defence after a game where we produced possibly our worst display of attacking this season and against 10 men.

He gave the ball away more than he found his man in the first half (though did play some stunning passes that were successful) and was anonymous for the majority of the second - and I say that as someone who rates Marek highly and want to see him in the side. First full game back though so time to improve.

I'll be intrigued to see what midfield starts against Norwich tomorrow.

[loyalroyal4life]

Not really a stirring defence after a game where we produced possibly our worst display of attacking this season and against 10 men.

He gave the ball away more than he found his man in the first half (though did play some stunning passes that were successful) and was anonymous for the majority of the second - and I say that as someone who rates Marek highly and want to see him in the side. First full game back though so time to improve.

I'll be intrigued to see what midfield starts against Norwich tomorrow

hopefully marek and cisse, think cisse is the best player to compliment and partner marek in the heart of midfield

[Big Foot]

We seem to be profiting a lot from knocking the ball in the air to Doyle & N.Hunt. Doyle in particular is very good at holding the ball up and seems to have great ability at bringing the ball down with his chest whilst N.Hunt chases every single lost cause and loose ball.

If Marek's to be successful on the scale he can be at this club then our style of play needs to become slicker and played more into feet and sliding passes. We need to be more "Rotterdam" than "Rotherham"

[Archie's penalty]

After giving this a good think in the end we need to see how well Marek does with Kebe in the side before we know if he works for us.

It seems pretty clear that Kebe will come back and go straight into the side, probably for the whole season.

I hope Henry plays well in the next two games but I'm not holding my breath. Marek with Kebe on the other hand might work.

[winchester_royal]

This Matejovsky waknfest has to stop soon, even after a shitty performance people are still droning on about him, just face it - he's not going to fit into our style of play and you people are simply going to have to come to terms with that.

James Harper on the other hand *DOES* fit in.

It wasn't a shitty performance you stupid biased prick.

Were you even there?

[Ian Royal]

You need to lighten up.