Is Convey ever...

[Old Biscuitman]

Got to agree that both players are effective in very different ways. Good therefore in tandem. Lucky to have them. With new right winger in Jan my bet is on BC to start on left. Hunt better sub when opposing defenders tiring.

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

Of cause if we got a top quality centre mid. Who can do everything. I'd like to see Convey in the middle.

[brendywendy]

I don't see the reason for the animosity towards Hunt and the virtual deification of Convey

Is it something to do with appearance/culture/style

Hunt looks like an Irish pikey and runs around like a duracell bunny
Convey is the cocksure American with style, pace and grace...however that doesn't make him necessarily a better or more effective player

perhaps we are judging the the two players using the wrong criteria

no animosity

nor deification(just defecation from some)

just honest appraisals of both players strengths and abilities in comparison to each other
according to peoples opinions

personally i love them both, and think they should both get their fair share of starts depending on the opposition
but that essentially convey is the better football player
IMHO

is the better football player the better player?

that depends on the opposition as i stated

[Archie's penalty]

I don't see the reason for the animosity towards Hunt and the virtual deification of Convey

Is it something to do with appearance/culture/style

Hunt looks like an Irish pikey and runs around like a duracell bunny
Convey is the cocksure American with style, pace and grace...however that doesn't make him necessarily a better or more effective player

perhaps we are judging the the two players using the wrong criteria

no animosity

nor deification(just defecation from some)

just honest appraisals of both players strengths and abilities in comparison to each other
according to peoples opinions

personally i love them both, and think they should both get their fair share of starts depending on the opposition
but that essentially convey is the better football player
IMHO

is the better football player the better player?

that depends on the opposition as i stated

I love Hunty and whilst he'd be a great impact sub I feel that he would want to move on if he was not starting regularly after a while. I also think that plenty of premiership clubs would come in for him. What about Hunty in the middle alongside Harper ? (although I think Cisse would be better tbh)...

[Ian Royal]

Hunt in the middle with Harper would be something I'd be interested in trying and could well be a useful option, but not I feel a first choice starting midfield partnership.

[LongLaneYank]

spot play

Yeah, I wondered about that. Is that an Americanism for substitute?

No, for picking your spots. Gunn isn't proving effective week in, week out, but he was effective last year, when the matchup worked in his favor. So spot starts, not a regular starter.

[Wax Jacket]

wtf

[Old Biscuitman]

wtf

An occasional player, more of a sub than regular starter. Possibly used in special situations, eg formation changes.

[Ian Royal]

wtf

An occasional player, more of a sub than regular starter. Possibly used in special situations, eg formation changes.

bloody yanks

[LongLaneYank]

wtf

An occasional player, more of a sub than regular starter. Possibly used in special situations, eg formation changes.

bloody yanks

yeah, ruining everything...

[Woodcote Royal]

Coppell again in The EP saying he's going to buy a right winger.

I think Bobby will find himself out the team in January.

No way Hunt is getting dropped. Espicially after Coppell's recent comments about Hunty...

No chance, once Bobby is fully match fit, which after only a handful of games he still isn't, he will be far more effective than Hunt. .

As a big fan of both left wingers, I can't believe there are those who STILL can't wait to dismiss so easily the contribution Hunt has made to this side.

Following Coppell's, frankly, depressingly persistent attempts to turn Fae and Rosenior into right midfielders, it has been a huge pleasure for me to watch Convey and Hunt do such a terrific job of sharing both flanks.

Whilst signing a right winger will be a no-brainer come January, I for one will be looking forward to both left footers fighting it our for a starting place with neither being "far more effective" than the other.

They are very different players but from what I saw of Saturdays game (8 minutes, many thanks, MOTD ) any right midfielder will have to player very well to dislodge either of these two.

[Wycombe Royal]

Coppell again in The EP saying he's going to buy a right winger.

I think Bobby will find himself out the team in January.

No way Hunt is getting dropped. Espicially after Coppell's recent comments about Hunty...

No chance, once Bobby is fully match fit, which after only a handful of games he still isn't, he will be far more effective than Hunt. .

As a big fan of both left wingers, I can't believe there are those who STILL can't wait to dismiss so easily the contribution Hunt has made to this side.

Where have I "dissmissed so easily" the contribution that Hunt has made to the side?

All I have said is that a fully fit Convey will be far more effective than Hunt.

[Woodcote Royal]

Convey would have to be a world beater to be "far more effective" than Hunt given the latters contribution over the last 2 seasons and, without wishing to start World War 3 , I think those of you who feel this way under rate Hunt as a player.

[Wycombe Royal]

Convey would have to be a world beater to be "far more effective" than Hunt given the latters contribution over the last 2 seasons and, without wishing to start World War 3 , I think those of you who feel this way under rate Hunt as a player.

So now you are suggesting that Hunt isn't too far below World Class? I'll have some of what you had to drink this lunchtime please.

Hunt is a very effective player at what he does, but our team seriously lacks creativity and that is where Convey excels when he is on form (as he showed against Liverpool). His workrate has improved immensely and he doesn't look like starting a punch up every 5 minutes.

[Woodcote Royal]

Err, no.

I said Convey would have to be world class to be so much more effective than Hunt.

This, obviously, doesn't make Hunt world class just very effective, not to mention just as creative as Convey.........................and this would be Convey back to his best, which we are only just starting to see.

[Wycombe Royal]

This, obviously, doesn't make Hunt world class just very effective, not to mention just as creative as Convey.........................and this would be Convey back to his best, which we are only just starting to see.

Hunt - 2 assists this season in 1424 minutes of football

Convey - 3 assists this season in 434 minutes of football (after coming back from a long term injury)

That is my crude measure of creativity - how many goals have they created, and I think they are quite clear as to who is more creative.

[Woodcote Royal]

Well that gives a really clear picture of both players contribution so far, doesn't it

I didn't see any mention, for instance, of Hunts goals (rather hard to "assist" when you put the ball in the back of the net ) notably the best penalty taken by a Reading player this season and against one of the best penalty savers in the Prem.

Also, Hunt has suffered this season because we have, in effect, had no right side for much of the time, making it easy for sides to double-up on the left knowing that we have little threat on the other flank.

I have no doubt that Convey will do well in the Prem and if he out performs his rival I want him to get the nod, too, but it's still Hunt's shirt to lose based on his top flight contribution so far and, I repeat, your assessment and very narrow stats under value that contribution by no small degree.

[Wycombe Royal]

We aren't going to agree so on that basis, I'm out.

[Old Biscuitman]

We aren't going to agree so on that basis, I'm out.

As your peacemaker, I think you are both right.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

notably the best penalty taken by a Reading player this season and against one of the best penalty savers in the Prem..

Reina guesses the other way and he saves Hunt's pen pretty easily. A penalty isn't a "good penalty" just because it goes in (although I'd settle for it). A good penalty is one that'd almost certainly go in even if the keeper guesses the right way.